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Tuesday, October 21, 2025

October 21 & 22, 1975: The Carlton Fisk Game... and the Joe Morgan Game

October 21, 1975, 50 years ago: I wrote a post for the entirety of the month of October 1975, for the 50th Anniversary of a month in which so much happened. But this is one of the most talked-about games in baseball history, and is worth a separate post.

In The Curse of the Bambino, his somewhat skewed history of his beloved Boston Red Sox, Boston Globe columnist Dan Shaughnessy called it "a brilliant autumn day in New England," following a 3-day delay for rain. Brilliant though the Tuesday afternoon may have been, Game 6 of the 1975 World Series is played at night at Fenway Park.

The Red Sox, Champions of the American League after winning its Eastern Division and beating the 3-time defending World Champions, the Oakland Athletics, in the AL Championship Series, trail the Cincinnati Reds, a.k.a. the Big Red Machine, Champions of the National League after winning its Western Division and beating the Pittsburgh Pirates in the NLCS, 3 games to 2, and must win to force a Game 7.

The Sox haven't won the World Series in 57 years, including a loss as recently as 1967. The Reds haven't won the World Series in 35 years, including 2 Series losses in this decade already. Boston is looking for its 1st title since 1918; Cincinnati, for its 1st since 1940. Both teams need it badly. Something's gotta give.

Just 14 years later, Shaughnessy wrote, "Game Six has taken on a life of its own in the years since it was played, and it gets larger and more thrilling in each retelling. Some distance allows that there may be other contenders for the title of The Greatest Game Ever Played, but by any measure, 1975's Game Six will stand as one of the top ten games in World Series history, and one that came at a time when baseball needed it most." Shaughnessy was right.

In The New Yorker magazine, Roger Angell wrote, "Game Six... what can we say of it without seeming to diminish it by recapitulation or dull it with detail?" Roger, one of the greatest writers ever on the subject of baseball, was wrong on this one: The details are necessary.

Due to the rain, Sox manager Darrell Johnson was able to start Luis Tiant, winner of Games 1 and 4, on full rest. Reds manager Sparky Anderson started Gary Nolan. Fred Lynn, who, that season, became the 1st player ever to be awarded his league's Rookie of the Year and its Most Valuable Player award in the same season, hit a home run that gave the Sox a 3-0 lead in the 1st inning, and Tiant pitched shutout ball through 4.

But, as they would say in English soccer, Three-nil, and they fucked it up. The Reds got 2 men on in the 5th, and Ken Griffey Sr. sent Lynn to the wall. Lynn crashed, telling NBC's Bob Costas years later that he'd hurt his ribs, and that, for a moment, he was barely conscious and couldn't feel his legs. Griffey's triple scored 2 runs, and then Johnny Bench singled Griffey home to tie the game. A 2-run double by George Foster in the 7th and a solo homer by Cesar Geronimo in the 8th gave the Reds a 6-3 lead, with just 6 outs to go for the title.

Typical Boston choke, leading to a Reds win? As ESPN college football analyst Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast, my friend!" Six-three, and they fucked it up. In the bottom of the 8th, Reds reliever Pedro Borbon (who, like Griffey, would later see his son and namesake play in the major leagues) gave up a single to Lynn and a walk to Rico Petrocelli.

Sparky brought in Rawley Eastwick, who struck out Dwight Evans and got Rick Burleson to line out to left. He got 2 strikes on Bernie Carbo, a former Red, pinch-hitting for pitcher Roger Moret (who had relieved Tiant in the 8th), but Carbo drove one to dead center, and tied it up.

In the bottom of the 9th, Denny Doyle drew a leadoff walk. Carl Yastrzemski singled him over to 3rd. Sparky brought in reliever Will McEnaney, and had him intentionally walk Carlton Fisk. Did Sparky have a premonition? If so, it didn't help him later on.

Lynn flew to left, and Foster threw home. Doyle tagged up and broke for home, because he thought Sox 3rd-base coach Don Zimmer was telling him, "Go, go, go!" In fact, Zim was saying, "No, no, no!" Doyle was out at the plate. Had he scored, winning it for the Sox right there, this would still have been a superb game, but not the legendary game that it became -- except within New England. Outside those 6 States, few baseball fans would have ranked it as an all-time great game. Instead, it went to extra innings.

Dave Concepcion singled and stole 2nd with 1 out in the top of the 10th, but Sox reliever Dick Drago stranded him. Pat Darcy sent the Sox down 1-2-3 in the bottom of the 10th.

Pete Rose led off the top of the 11th, and turned to Sox catcher Fisk, and said, "Can you believe this game?" (Some sources have Rose's comment as, "Some kind of a game, isn't it?") Fisk may not have taken kindly to that, because Drago -- who would bean Thurman Munson in a Yanks-Sox game at Fenway 3 years later -- hit Rose with a pitch.

Griffey bunted, and, unlike the Ed Armbrister play in Game 3, did not even appear to interfere with Fisk, who threw Rose out at 2nd. With Griffey on 1st and 1 out, Joe Morgan, who would be named the NL's MVP that season and the next, drove the ball to right field, and at Fenway the right-field fence was, and remains, only 3 feet high. Evans reached over the fence to make a great catch, and then started a double play, throwing to Yaz, who threw to Burleson who had run over to cover 1st, to eliminate Griffey and end the Reds' rally.

The Sox went down 1-2-3 in the bottom of the 11th. In the top of the 12th, Tony Pérez and Foster singled off Rick Wise, but Wise stranded them.

At 12:34 AM on October 22, 1975, Fisk led off the bottom of the 12th against Darcy, and hit a 1-0 pitch down the left-field line. It had enough distance. But would it be fair? Or would it be foul? Fisk, as though it would actually influence the flight of the ball, waved his arms to his right. The ball hit the pole near its top, for a home run. Final score, Boston 7, Cincinnati 6. The Series was tied, and would go to a Game 7.

John Kiley, the organist at Fenway Park (and also at the Boston Garden, thus the answer to the corny old trivia question about "the only man to play for the Red Sox, Celtics and Bruins"), played George Friedrich Handel's "Hallelujah Chorus." Then he played "Stout-Hearted Men." Then he played "The Beer Barrel Polka." ("Roll out the barrel, we'll have a barrel of fun.") Then he played "Seventy-six Trombones" from the Broadway musical The Music Man. (I have no idea why he played that one.)

The shot of Fisk thinking he can wave the ball fair, which I've dubbed the Fenway Twist, is the most familiar clip in the history of televised sports. (As they had with every World Series since 1947, NBC was televising it, although they would begin to alternate with ABC starting with the 1977 season, until 1989.)

From seeing this clip so much, and hearing so much talk about Game 6 of '75 from Red Sox fans, a reasonable person might have asked (through 2004 anyway), "Wait a minute. The Red Sox haven't won the World Series since 1918. That means... they lost Game 7! So why do people make such a big deal about this homer?" Well, it won one game, not a World Series, but it was still one of sports' greatest epics.

Game 6 of the 1975 World Series has been called "The Greatest Baseball Game Ever Played" by many people. Certainly, it is in the discussion, along with Game 8 in 1912 (Game 2 was tied when called due to darkness), Game 7 in 1924, Game 7 in 1960, and Game 7 in 1991, and also with the 1951 Giant-Dodger Playoff and the 1978 Yanks-Sox Playoff.

In 1981, baseball historian John Thorn published Baseball's 10 Greatest Games. He included this game as one of them. In 2010, the MLB Network listed this game on top of their list of MLB's 20 Greatest Games -- limited in scope, due to the availability of surviving videotape, to 1975 onward. Due to the timing -- 1975 to 1980 -- along with the Bucky Dent Game, it was 1 of 2 games to make both lists.

Dick Stockton, born in Philadelphia but grew up in Queens, then the 32-year-old lead broadcaster on Sox games for WSBK-Channel 39, and previously for Boston Celtics games on WBZ-Channel 4, then an NBC station, was the lead broadcaster for NBC in this Series.

A 22-year-old writer from Quincy named Lesley Visser was part of The Boston Globe's coverage. Stockton and Visser would both go on to become key cogs in CBS Sports' programming. Supposedly, they met on this night. Other sources say they met at another Boston-based event in 1982. Either way, they married in 1983, but got divorced in 2010, and each has since married someone else.

And, of course, this game has also been cited in the 1997 film Good Will Hunting, discussed by the characters played by Robin Williams and Matt Damon.

Of course, as Shaughnessy pointed out in his book, in the 1986 World Series, Game 6 would prove disastrous for the Red Sox. So now, if you're in New England, or in the presence of a Red Sox fan anywhere else, and you say the words, "Game Six," they have to ask, "Which one?"

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October 22, 1975: Just 20 hours after Fisk's home run finished Game 6, the Reds and the Red Sox have to play Game 7 of the World Series at Fenway Park, to decide the championship of the baseball world. And, while not talked about as much, and with a less dramatic ending, Game 7 would also be an absolute classic.

Before the game, Reds manager Sparky Anderson says of his starter, Don Gullett, "No matter what happens in this game, my starter's going to the Hall of Fame." Told by the reporters that Anderson had said that, Red Sox starter Bill Lee says, "No matter what happens in this game, I'm going to the Eliot Lounge."

The Eliot was a popular Boston watering hole, at the convenient intersection of Massachusetts and Commonwealth Avenues, known for local athletes dining and drinking there. Essentially, it was Boston's answer to Toots Shor's in New York or The Pump Room in Chicago. But since its closing in 1996, people who knew it well have argued that it was not a "sports bar," as if that term diminishes what the Eliot meant to the sports fans of Boston.

The Sox take a 3-0 lead in the 3rd, just as they had in Game 6. And, just as they had in Game 6, as they would say in English soccer, "Three-nil, and you fucked it up." Lee decided to try a blooper pitch against 
Pérez, and the man known as Big Doggie crushes it, sending it well over the Green Monster. That makes it 3-2 Boston.

Lee allows another run – some sources say he'd developed a blister, or maybe I'm confusing this with Roger Clemens in 1986 – and the game is tied.

Jim Willoughby finishes up the 7th for Boston, and also pitches the 8th. But in the 9th, Sox manager Darrell Johnson pinch-hits Cecil Cooper for Willoughby. Johnson brings in Jim Burton to pitch, and Burton allows 2 runners. Joe Morgan, about to win the 1st of back-to-back National League Most Valuable Player awards, and maybe the best all-around player in baseball at this point, singles up the middle to bring home Ken Griffey Sr. to make it 4-3 Cincinnati. 
Joe Morgan

Will McEnaney takes the mound for the bottom of the 9th. He gets Juan Beníquez to fly out to right. He gets Bob Montgomery to ground out to short. (Montgomery will retire after the 1979 season, making him the last remaining player, "grandfathered in" under the rule, to bat without wearing a batting helmet.) Carl Yastrzemski, the Boston Captain, the man Sox fans most wanted to see come to the plate as the tying run with 1 out to go, come to the plate. But McEnaney gets Yaz fly out to center fielder César Gerónimo to end it.

The Reds thus win their 3rd World Series, but their 1st in 35 years. The Red Sox have now gone 57 years without winning one, and New England will have to wait.


Many Sox fans wonder what could have been: If Johnson hadn't brought in Dick Drago and blown Lee's 2-1 lead in the 9th in Game 2; if Ed Armbrister hadn't interfered with Carlton Fisk in Game 3; if umpire Larry Barnett had called interference on that play; if the Sox hadn't blown a 1-0 lead in the 4th in Game 5; if Lee hadn't thrown the blooper to Pérez; if Johnson hadn't pinch-hit for Willoughby; if Johnson had relieved Willoughby with someone other than Burton; and if rookie outfielder Jim Rice hadn't been injured late in the regular season, rendering him unavailable for the Series...

But, between that blooper pitch and his horrid performance in the Summer of 1978, which caused the next Red Sox manager, Don Zimmer, to drop him from the starting rotation -- personal feelings had nothing to do with it -- Bill Lee is more responsible for the Red Sox not winning the World Series in the 1970s, possibly even for the entirety of the 86-year drought, than any single person. Sox fans choose not to consider this, because no Sox player has ever hated the Yankees more, and thus they love him.

This Series has been regarded as one of the best ever, maybe the best. For the Red Sox, Yastrzemski, Fisk and Rice have been elected to the Hall of Fame, and some people think Tiant and Evans should also be elected. For the Reds, Anderson, Morgan, Pérez and Bench have been elected; and Rose, named MVP of this Series, would have been elected to the Hall if he hadn't been caught betting on baseball.

However, despite Anderson's prediction, his Game 7 starter, Don Gullett, developed a shoulder problem, and a promising career was cut short, and he did not achieve election to the Hall. He did, however, help the Reds win the Series again the next year, and then signed with the Yankees as a free agent, and won another, before his shoulder injury ended his career in 1978.

The Reds repeated as World Champions in 1976, sweeping the Yankees in the World Series. Then "The Big Red Machine" began to be broken up by management. It would take until 1990 for them to rebuild and win another Pennant and World Series. Through 2025, they have never won another.

The Red Sox would go through close calls in 1977, 1978, 1986, 1999 and 2003 -- the '78 and '86 editions being particularly painful -- before finally winning the World Series in 2004. And again in 2007. And again in 2013. Each time, aided by steroids. They won again in 2018. That time, aided by Apple Watches.

For the 1975 World Champion Cincinnati Reds, 17 of their players are still alive. Johnny Bench, Tony Pérez, Dave Concepcion, George Foster, César Gerónimo, Ken Griffey Sr., Dan Driessen, Doug Flynn, Fred Norman, Will McEnaney, Gary Nolan, Jack Billingham, Rawly Eastwick, Darrel Chaney, Terry Crowley, Clay Carroll and Pat Darcy.

For the 1975 Boston Red Sox, there are 18 surviving players from their World Series roster: Carl Yastrzemski, Carlton Fisk, Jim Rice, Fred Lynn, Dwight Evans, Rico Petrocelli, Rick Burleson, Cecil Cooper, Bernie Carbo, Bill Lee, Rick Wise, Juan Beníquez, Bob Montgomery, Tim Blackwell, Bob Heise, Rick Miller, Jim Willoughby and Dick Pole.

Saturday, October 11, 2025

October 11, 1975: "Saturday Night Live" Premieres

Back row, left to right: Laraine Newman, John Belushi,
Jane Curtin, Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd.
Bottom row, left to right: Garrett Morris and Gilda Radner.

October 11, 1975, 50 years ago: Saturday Night premieres on NBC, taping from the network's studios at 30 Rockefeller Plaza in Midtown Manhattan. After this 1st season, it will be renamed Saturday Night Live. The original cast, known as "the Not Ready for Prime Time Players," includes John Belushi, Dan Aykroyd, Gilda Radner, Chevy Chase, Jane Curtin, Laraine Newman and Garrett Morris -- but not, as is commonly believed, Bill Murray, who replaced Chase after 1 season.

The 1st guest host is George Carlin, who begins his monologue with a whacked-out version of the Lord's Prayer, and goes on to do "Baseball and Football," a routine he will expand on a few times. (This version is from 1990, from the State Theatre in New Brunswick, New Jersey.)

Not long before Carlin died, someone took a poll to determine the greatest standup comedians of all time. Carlin came in 2nd. Coming in 1st was Richard Pryor, who, like Carlin, was at the peak of his powers in the mid-Seventies.
A month into SNL's run, Pryor was asked to host the show. But, nervous that he would issue some four-letter words — they didn't seem as nervous about such language coming from Carlin, creator of the 1972 bit "Seven Words You Can Never Use On Television," none of which he used when he hosted -- the show was not quite "Live, from New York." They used a 7-second delay, in case they had to bleep anything out. They did. Ever since, even SNL hasn't been totally live.
In addition to the preceding, SNL would make stars of Eddie Murphy, Joe Piscopo, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer, Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman, Norm McDonald, Mike Myers, Chris Farley, Sarah Silverman, Will Ferrell, Tina Fey, Keenan Thompson, and Kate McKinnon.
Billy Crystal was already a star when he signed on for the 1984-85 season. The next season would be the one and only on the show for Robert Downey Jr., whose true fame was yet to come.

Wednesday, October 9, 2024

Luis Tiant, 1940-2024

You know the old saying: "When they made that guy, they broke the mold." Well, when they made Luis Tiant, they didn't break the mold. The mold just faded away.

Luis Clemente Tiant Vega was born in Marianao, Cuba on November 23, 1940. Like an earlier great pitcher who would pitch in Cuba, Satchel Paige, he liked to joke that he was older. Unlike a later great Cuban pitcher, Orlando "El Duque" Hernández, he wasn't older than he said he was.

His father, Luis Eleuterio Tiant Bravo, later known as Luis Tiant Sr., pitched in America's Negro Leagues from 1928 to 1947. In his last season, he helped the New York Cubans, win the Negro World Series. Early in the 20th Century, "Cuban" was often code for "black," but they did have some Cuban players, including the elder Tiant, a lefthander.

American baseball was integrated in 1947, too late for the elder Tiant. The younger Tiant was "discovered" by former Cleveland Indians star Bobby Ávila, and in 1959, Tiant was pitching for the Mexico City Tigers in the Mexican League. In 1961, the Indians purchased his contract. But that meant he was stuck in America: He could never return home, as travel restrictions between the U.S. and a Cuba now ruled by Fidel Castro made it impossible.

He made his major league debut on July 19, 1964. Against the defending American League Champion New York Yankees. At Yankee Stadium. Opposing the Yankees' ace, Whitey Ford. Wearing Number 33, Tiant went the distance. He allowed 4 hits: All singles, to Roger Maris, Bobby Richardson, Phil Linz, and Tom Tresh (who was playing center field in place of Mickey Mantle). He struck out 11. Backed by a home run from Leon Wagner, Tiant won, 3-0.

Despite going 10-4 with a 2.83 ERA (and even 1 save), Tiant was not the American League's Rookie of the Year in 1964. But the winner was another Cuba, Tony Oliva of the Minnesota Twins, who led the AL in batting average. Afterward, it looked like AL batters had caught up with Tiant, as he went 11-11, 12-11 and 12-9 over the next 3 seasons.

But in 1968, he went 21-9, and had an earned run average (ERA) of 1.60. He pitched 9 shutouts. To put that in perspective: In the National League, Bob Gibson set a modern-era record with a 1.12 ERA, and also had 9 shutouts. Tiant's ERA+ was 186, so he wasn't just benefiting from "the Year of the Pitcher": He was having a great season on top of that. He also made the 1st of 3 All-Star Games.
To counteract that season, the pitcher's mound was lowered from 15 to 10 inches for 1969, and while it didn't affect all pitchers, it affected Tiant, as he dropped to 9-20. But he also battled injury, including a fractured shoulder blade. Just before the start of the 1971 regular season, the Twins released him. They had won the last 2 AL Western Division titles. They would not win another for 17 seasons.

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The Atlanta Braves signed him, but after 5 games at Class AAA Richmond, they decided he was done, and released him. The Boston Red Sox took a chance, and he went 1-7 for them in 1971. But they stuck with him, and, over the next 5 seasons, he went 15-6 (with a League-leading 1.91 ERA), 20-13, 22-13, 18-14, and 21-12.

That 18-14 record in 1975 was actually his least effective over that stretch. But it was the one time between 1967 and 1986 that the Red Sox won the American League Pennant. As they outpaced the Yankees and the Baltimore Orioles for the Eastern Division title, and dethroned the Oakland Athletics in the AL Championship Series, Tiant became a bigger star than ever.

How big a star? Big enough that, in August, Castro gave Tiant's parents a special visa so that they could see their son pitch. Knowing that Luis Sr. had been a Negro League pitcher, and knowing the good publicity that would result from having an anti-Castro Cuban do so -- especially in a heavily-Catholic, and thus anti-Communist, city like Boston -- Sox management even had Luis Sr. throw out a ceremonial first ball.
How big a star? In 1971, in trying to come back from injury, Tiant developed a new windup, twisting and turning, looking back at 2nd base before delivering the ball. Every kid in America, even kids like me who hated the Red Sox, imitated this windup.

His parents were in the stands at Fenway Park for Game 1 of the World Series against the Cincinnati Reds. The Reds hadn't won the World Series in 35 years; the Red Sox, 57. Something had to give. Due to their postseason experience -- although they were 0-2 in World Series play -- "The Big Red Machine" were favored to win the Series. Not only did Tiant pitch a 5-hit shutout, but, with the designated hitter meaning he had come to bat only once all season (but getting a hit), he led off the bottom of the 7th win a single, leading to a 6-run Boston inning, and a 6-0 victory.

He also went the distance in Game 4, winning, 5-4. Had the Sox won the Series, Tiant would have been an easy choice for Series MVP. Even the rain that delayed Game 6 for 3 days seemed to work in his favor, He was now rested enough to make a 3rd Series start, and held the Reds scoreless for the 1st 4 innings.

But they scored 3 in the 5th, and in the top of the 7th, Tiant gave up a home run to César Gerónimo. He was relieved, and the Reds took a 6-3 lead, before the Red Sox tied in it in the 8th, and won the game, 7-6, on Carlton Fisk's home run in the 12th inning. It's been called the greatest game ever played. But the Reds won Game 7, and won the Series.

Tiant was 35, not really a late bloomer in terms of talent, but definitely in terms of attention. He gained attention the next season as his two father figures, Luis Sr. and Sox owner Tom Yawkey, both died. He gained attention for his unusual windup. He gained attention for his status as a Cuban exile.

And he gained attention for his personality. While he understood English, he spoke it with a very heavy accent that made him hard to understand. He loved cigars, something Cuba is known for. He would even smoke a cigar in the shower. How he kept it lit, only he knew. He glued a mirror to the shower wall. With his receding hairline, his biker-style mustache, and his pudgy frame, he sure didn't look like an athlete. But he was once caught lathering up, looking at that mirror, and saying, to no one in particular, in his accent, "Damn! I am a gooooooood-looooooooking son of a beeeeeeeech!"
Pictured: One goofy-looking Boston cop,
and one good-looking son of a bitch.
(His words, not mine.)

And yet, he never threw another postseason pitch. The Sox finished a distant 3rd place in 1976. They led the AL East most of the way in 1977, but the Yankees came back to win. Then came 1978, a year which lives in infamy in New England. At age 37, Tiant went 13-8 with a 3.31 ERA.

But the Boston tailspin and accompanying New York surge became legendary. Tiant shut the Orioles out on September 6. The next day began the 4-game series known as the Boston Massacre. Allegedly, team Captain Carl Yastrzemski urged manager Don Zimmer to start Tiant on 3 days' rest in the series finale, to avoid the sweep, and Zimmer refused. Tiant pitched the next day, and beat the Orioles again. Zimmer did pitch him on 3rd days' rest for the regular-season finale against the Toronto Blue Jays, and he pitched a shutout, to force a Playoff. But that meant he was unavailable for the Playoff, and, well, Bucky Blessed Dent.

That regular-season finale also turned out to be Tiant's last game for the Red Sox, as his contract ran out. Having just turned 38, they didn't re-sign him. The Yankees did. Seeing him in a Yankee uniform was blasphemy to Sox fans, and weird to Yankee Fans. But he had something left: Over 2 seasons, he went 13-8 and 9-9. He pitched 2 more seasons, 1981 for the Pittsburgh Pirates, and 1982 for the California Angels. 
Does Luis Tiant belong in the Baseball Hall of Fame? He retired with a record of 229-172, an ERA of 3.30, 2,416 strikeouts, and a WHIP of 1.199. In the post-1920 Lively Ball Era, only 8 pitchers are ahead of him in all 4 categories: Warren Spahn, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemens, Don Sutton, Gaylord Perry, Tom Seaver, Randy Johnson and Bob Gibson.

Throw in Tiant's .571 winning percentage, and the number of those ahead of him in all categories drops to 6: Spahn, Maddux, Clemens, Seaver, Johnson and Gibson. Throw in Tiant's 2.18 strikeout-to-walk ratio, and the number drops to 5, eliminating only Spahn. Is that enough?

Baseball-Reference.com has a Hall of Fame Monitor, on which a "Likely HOFer" is at 100. Tiant is at 97, suggesting that he just misses. They also have a Hall of Fame Standards, on which the "Average HOFer" is at 50. Tiant is at 41, suggesting that he's a bit short. 

They also have Similarity Scores, showing the 10 most statistically similar players, weighted toward players of the same position. Of Tiant's 10 most similar, Catfish Hunter, Jim Bunning (the top 2) and Don Drysdale are in the Hall of Fame; George "Hooks" Dauss once missed election through the Veterans Committee by one vote; and the rest are Billy Pierce, Vida Blue, Mickey Lolich, Jim Perry, Kevin Brown and Orel Hershiser. Aside from Perry, whose brother Gaylord is in, each of those pitchers has some support for the Hall, but none is ever likely to get in.

If winning matters, then Tiant doesn't get much help: He reached the postseason 4 times, but only won 1 Pennant, and no World Series. If character counts, then he is helped, as he was beloved by his teammates, and was never involved in any kind of scandal. Overall, I can see why some people believe he should be in, but the case is far from tight.

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Although Tiant's Yankee teammates liked him, and he has occasionally returned to New York for Old-Timers' Day, and had some of his best years in Cleveland, it's easy to forget now that he played for anyone other than the Red Sox. He remains, one of the most popular players in Sox history. He is their "barbecue stand guy," the way Boog Powell is in Baltimore, Greg Luzinski is in Philadelphia, Gorman Thomas is in Milwaukee and Randy Jones is in San Diego. One notable difference is that El Tiante's Cuban Barbecue is on the outside of Fenway Park, open on Jersey Street for pregame, as that street is blocked off, with a game ticket required for entry.

He served as a pitching coach in the farm systems of the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Chicago White Sox, and for Nicaragua in the 1996 Olympics. He was head coach for the Savannah College of Art and Design, an NCAA Division III program in Georgia, from 1998 to 2001, without success. He served as a "special assignment instructor" for the Red Sox, including helping out at Spring Training in Fort Myers, Florida.
He and his wife Maria had 3 children: Luis, Isabel and Daniel. They had homes in Southborough, Massachusetts and Wells, Maine. It was at this latter home that Luis Tiant died yesterday, October 8, 2024, at the age of 83. It was the end of one of baseball's grandest and most entertaining stories.