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Thursday, December 12, 2024

Top 5 Great Things About the Arrowverse (& 5 Things They Got Wrong)

Top row, left to right: Melissa Benoist as Kara Zor-El, Kara Danvers, Supergirl; Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer, The Atom; Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen, Green Arrow, The Spectre; Chyler Leigh as Alex Danvers, Sentinel; Grant Gustin as Barry Allen, The Flash; and Jesse Rath as Querl Dox, Brainiac 5.

Second row, left to right: Ruby Rose as Kate Kane, Batwoman; David Harewood as J'onn J'onzz, the Martian Manhunter.

Third row, left to right: Katherine McNamara as Mia Queen, the 2nd Green Arrow; Tyler Hoechlin as Kal-El, Clark Kent, Superman.

Front row, left to right: Audrey Marie Anderson as Lyla Michaels, Harbinger; Caity Lotz as Sara Lance, White Canary; Elizabeth Tulloch as Lois Lane.

Lower right inset: Arrowverse creator Marc Guggenheim.

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Last week, with the final episode of Superman & Lois on The CW, the Arrowverse officially came to an end, after 12 years.

Top 5 Great Things About the Arrowverse (& 5 Things They Got Wrong)

10. Got Wrong: Teasing Green Lantern, But Not Delivering. During their version of Crisis On Infinite Earths, the Flash of Earth-90 (John Wesley Shipp reprising his role from the 1990-91 CBS Flash series) recognized John Diggle, a.k.a. Spartan (David Ramsey) as "John," suggesting that his counterpart was Earth-90's Green Lantern -- possibly a version of John Stewart. In the last installment, they showed that Earth-12 had a Green Lantern Corps. And the last episode of Arrow showed Diggle finding a box with something glowing green inside. But a later episode of The Flash showed Diggle rejecting the power ring, believing he would be corrupted by it.

There was a notation for "HAL" on the speed-dial of the pre-Crisis Earth-2's version of Barry Allen, the Flash (Grant Gustin), suggesting Hal Jordan. Ferris Air, Hal's employer, was mentioned on 7 episodes of Arrow and 12 episodes of The Flash. Coast City, Hal's hometown, was mentioned on 7 episodes of Arrow, 12 episodes of The Flash, 2 episodes of Vixen, 1 episode of Supergirl, and 1 episode of DC's Legends of Tomorrow. And in 1 of those episodes of Arrow, set partly in Coast City, a man wearing a bomber jacket with the name "JORDAN" on it is shown, although his face is not.

And, aside from references to the Earth-2 Green Lantern, Alan Scott, on Stargirl, that was it. We never saw an actor play Scott, or Stewart, or Hal Jordan, or Guy Gardner, or Kyle Rayner, or any of the interplanetary GLs. After the flop of the 2011 film with Ryan Reynolds as Jordan, that was disappointing.

9. Got Right: Diversity. The writers and producers of the Arrowverse were unafraid to highlight female heroes, with Supergirl, Batwoman and Vixen as title characters. They were unafraid to highlight black heroes, with Vixen, Black Lightning, and, eventually, Batwoman as title characters. They were unafraid to show an interracial marriage between John Diggle and Lyla Michaels, a.k.a. Harbinger (Audrey Marie Anderson).

They presented gay characters as well, starting on Arrow with Curtis Holt, a.k.a. Mr. Terrific, also a black character (played by Echo Kellum). The character is straight in the comic books. (UPDATE: As portrayed by Edi Gathegi in the 2025 Superman film, he is black, but his love-life is not mentioned.)

Kara Zor-El, a.k.a. Kara Danvers, a.k.a. Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) interacted with several gay characters, including her adoptive sister, Alex Danvers, a.k.a. Sentinel (Chyler Leigh); Kelly Olsen, Jimmy Olsen's sister and Alex's eventual wife, who succeeded Jimmy as the hero Guardian (Azie Tesfai); and Lena Luthor (Katie McGrath), Lex's sister who becomes Kara's best friend.

On DC's Legends of Tomorrow, the co-captains of the time-traveling spaceship Waverider, Sara Lance, a.k.a. White Canary, and Ava Sharpe developed a romance that led to a marriage and, through means too convoluted to discuss here, a pregnancy, though the baby hadn't yet been born when the show was canceled. (In real life, their portrayers, Caity Lotz and Jes Macallan, respectively, were both straight, are married to men as of this writing, and each recently had her 1st child.) 

On Batwoman, as the daughter of Jacob and Gabi Kane, Kate Kane was both female and Jewish, as was Jacob's sister, Martha Kane, who married Thomas Wayne, who wasn't Jewish, and this made their son Bruce (played only in a single hallucination scene, out of costume, by Warren Christie), Kate's 1st cousin, and half-Jewish but not raised as such. And Kate was also gay, for a trifecta of potential discrimination.

When Ruby Rose, the Australian supermodel and genderfluid actress who played Kate, left the show after Season 1 despite being "the Paragon of Courage" in the Arrowverse's version of Crisis On Infinite Earths, under controversial circumstances, a new character, who had never previously appeared in comic books, was created to be the new Batwoman: Ryan Wilder, who was written as female, gay, and black. Cast in the role was Javicia Leslie, who, in real life, is also all three. (UPDATE: Leslie is actually bi, and has since married a man. So has Megan Tandy, who played gay character Sophie Moore. Tandy has also had a baby.)

It didn't bother me that most of the people on the heroic side on Batwoman were gay -- Luke Fox, a.k.a. Batwing (Camrus Johnson), was an exception -- while the show's main villain, Kate's sister Beth, a.k.a. Alice (Rachel Skarsten), was straight. I fully support "Gay people can be heroic, too," but that doesn't mean being straight automatically makes someone the enemy.

Legends also had TV's 1st Muslim superheroes, the siblings Zari and Behrad Tarazi. (They were played by Tala Ashe and Shayan Sobhian, respectively. They are not related to each other in real life, but both are of Iranian descent).

8. Got Wrong: Making Green Arrow Their "Batman." Since they followed Warner Brothers' demand to not have Batman on TV shows, they needed a stand-in for the character, and made Green Arrow a "dark knight." For fans used to the usual version of Oliver Queen -- a billionaire business lord and wisecracking playboy who fights crime by night, but doesn't even get along with Batman -- this was jarring. On the other hand...

7. Got Right: Taking Green Arrow Seriously. Like Robin and Spider-Man, he's been a bit of a quipster, the jokes hiding his pain. Throw in the Robin Hood-like costume, and it's a little difficult to take Ollie seriously. But Arrow had him written as a serious character, with plenty of depth, and Stephen Amell was more than up to the challenge. They could have made him a little less dark, and still made him completely watchable.

6. Got Wrong: The Titans. The casting of Titans was not an issue. But making the show as dark as they did was.

As Batman has said in other media, the point of taking on kids and making them his Robins isn't so that they'll end up like him, but so that they won't. Yet, looking at this version of Dick Grayson (Brenton Thwaites) and Jason Todd (Curran Walters), it's clear that this Earth's version of Bruce Wayne did make them too much like him. Throw in the demonic stuff, and just how ruthless Deathstroke (Esai Morales) could be, and you have something that would have been rated R even without the sex scenes.

Actually, one casting was a terrible mistake. When I saw Iain Glen, at that point best known as Ser Jorah Mormont on Game of Thrones, come out of Wayne Manor to greet Dick, I thought he was a great choice to play Alfred. But he was Bruce instead, a role he was way too old for.

5. Got Right: The Justice Society of America: The Next Generation. Okay, the writers and producers of Stargirl never explained how their version of the original JSA got started in the 1940s and were still alive and relatively young in 2010. But they did a terrific job of showing what it would really be like to be both a teenager and a superhero, with Brec Bassinger as Courtney Whitmore/Stargirl, Yvette Monreal as Yolanda Montez/Wildcat, Cameron Gellman as Rick Tyler/Hourman, and Anjelika Washington as Beth Chapel/Dr. Mid-Nite.

And, in what might be the most trivial piece of trivia of all time, but I noticed it, and liked it: As far as I know, Yvette Monreal is the first actor, of either gender, to play a superhero whose secret identity has the same initials.
 
4. Got Wrong: Teasing Batman, But Not Delivering. Batman, under that name and under his real name of Bruce Wayne, was mentioned on nearly every episode of Batwoman (on the pre-Crisis Earth-1). He was mentioned on episodes of Supergirl (on the pre-Crisis Earth-38). On The Flash, "BRUCE" was another name listed on the phone of the pre-Crisis Earth-2's Flash. Iain Glen played Bruce, but not in costume, on Titans (on Earth-9, pre- and post-Crisis). Kevin Conroy, long the voice of Batman in the DC Animated Universe, played Bruce, but not in costume, on the Batwoman installment of Crisis (on Earth-99).

A much-older (and much-fatter) Burt Ward, who played Dick Grayson, a.k.a. Robin, on the 1966-68 Batman TV series, was shown at the beginning of Crisis. So was Robert Wuhl, who played news photographer Alexander Knox in the 1989 Batman film.

But, in 12 years, except for a shadowy figure whose face would couldn't see on 1 episode of Titans, we never saw Batman in costume. Nor did we ever find out what happened to the main universe's Batman after he left Gotham City. 

3. Got Right: Crisis On Infinite Earths. When the Marvel Cinematic Universe had its Infinity War, it was the end of half of all life in the universe, and they had to fix it. In the 1985 DC Comics series COIE, all the life in every universe was at risk. In the Arrowverse's adaptation, the Anti-Monitor actually went further: He did kill all the life in all the universes -- including, by inference, everyone watching -- except for, as it turned out, 11 individuals: Himself, 9 heroes, and Lex Luthor (Jon Cryer). And the heroes, plus Lex, had to restore life to the universe, and do it without a Superman, a Batman, or a Wonder Woman (though they did have a Supergirl, and a Batwoman, then played by Ruby Rose).

And they did it. In other words, in this way, the Arrowverse topped the MCU -- and the movies' DC Extended Universe. They took the darkest possible storyline, and still provided it with hope. They went for a young audience, and told an uplifting story, in a way that the MCU couldn't quite do, and the dark as hell DCEU didn't even try to do.

Bringing Brandon Routh, from the 2006 film Superman Returns, to play an older Superman of Earth-96, suggesting (but not outright saying) that he was the same Superman that Christopher Reeve played in 4 films from 1978 to 1987, emotionally wounded but still fighting for humanity, was the symbol of all of this.

When Earth-38's Lois Lane asks him why he added black to his S-like House of El crest, he said, "Because, Lois, even in the darkest times, hope cuts through. Hope is the light that lifts us out of the darkness."

2. Got Wrong: No Wonder Woman. The real world's leading female superhero character was mentioned on an episode of Batwoman. There was a notation for "DIANA" on the speed-dial of the pre-Crisis Earth-2's version of Barry Allen, the Flash, suggesting Princess Diana of Themyscira, a.k.a. Diana Prince, a.k.a. Wonder Woman. (In addition to "DIANA," "BRUCE" and "HAL," there was also a "CLARK.")

Themyscira, home of the Amazons and birthplace of Wonder Woman, was shown on an episode of Legends and mentioned on 2 others. And Diana's adoptive sister, Donna Troy, a.k.a. Wonder Girl (Conor Leslie -- white, and thus no relation to Javicia), was a major character on Titans, and mentioned Diana a few times.

But that was all we got. The Arrowverse's version of Crisis On Infinite Earth gave us a nod to Chris Reeve's Superman on Earth-96, and showed Burt Ward's Dick Grayson on Earth-66. (Adam West, who played Batman opposite Ward's Robin on the 1966-68 Batman series, had already died.) But no mention was made of any live-action Wonder Woman: Not Lynda Carter from the 1975-79 TV series, not Adrianne Palicki from the failed 2011 TV pilot, not Gal Gadot from the DCEU, not even Linda Harrison from the failed 1967 TV pilot. (Carter did appear on Supergirl, as Earth-38's President of the United States, though her character was forced to resign when she was exposed as an alien.)

When the end of their Crisis showed that the Multiverse had indeed been restored, including Earth-96 and its Superman, I wanted to see a scene of Ward as Dick, Routh as Clark Kent, and Carter as Diana Prince, standing together at the grave of Bruce Wayne, with an image of West carved into the tombstone. It would have been as close to perfect as they could have gotten, short of West still being alive.

1. Got Right: Superman and Lois Lane. Not just the series titled Superman & Lois, but the dynamic between them. Tyler Hoechlin gave us the best Superman since Chris Reeve, and the best Clark Kent ever. And Elizabeth "Bitsie" Tulloch took Lois to heights she'd never reached before.

No more of the games, with Lois trying to prove Clark is Superman, and Clark trying to prevent her from finding out. No more of Lois as a "damsel in distress" every week. This showed both of them as fully-rounded characters, complete with the difficulties that come from middle age and raising adolescents -- which, sometimes, is harder than saving the world.

Sunday, January 19, 2020

Programming On Infinite Earths

Last week, TV network The CW finished Crisis On Infinite Earths, its 5-part series where its various superhero TV shows had a "crossover event" that mirrored -- but, thankfully, didn't match -- the 1985 DC Comics event created by comic book writer Marv Wolfman, who made a guest appearance in the 5th and last episode.

This is not the 1st time that characters from one TV show have appeared on another. In fact, it's quite common. And we can even give names to the "worlds" or "fictional universes" in which it's happened.

Earth-A: All In the Family and its spinoffs take place on this world. AITF spun off Maude, which spun off Good Times. AITF also spun off The Jeffersons, which spun off Checking In.

Bea Arthur played Maude Findlay, and she also played Dorothy Zbornack on The Golden Girls. Rue McClanahan played Vivian Harmon on Maude, and she also played Blanche Devereaux on The Golden Girls. That show spun off Empty Nest, which spun off Nurses, all taking place in Miami, and there were crossovers.

I'd like to believe it took place on the same world as The Mary Tyler Moore Show, which had Betty White as Sue Ann Nivens, because Betty also played Rose Nylund on The Golden Girls. Lou Grant was a spinoff of The MTMS, so they definitely took place on the same world.

One thing is for certain: Murphy Brown, in her show of the same name, had a magazine cover with Archie Bunker on it framed on the wall of her office, so her show and Norman Lear's AITF franchise do not take place on the same world.

Maybe we can say that, barring evidence to the contrary, all TV shows not otherwise mentioned take place on this world.

Earth-B: B for Brooklyn. Welcome Back, Kotter was set in Brooklyn, at fictional James Buchanan High School in the 1970s. Head of the Class was set in Brooklyn, at fictional Millard Fillmore High School, also named for a pre-Civil War President, in the 1980s. Granted, that doesn't mean they took place on the same world. But the parallels are uncanny, including the unconventional teacher, the cynical principal, and the misfit kids -- remedial ones in the former, advanced-placement geniuses in the latter.

Another 1970s-'80s ABC sitcom, Barney Miller, would have fit right in, taking place across the East River in Manhattan, at the fictional 12th Precinct. However, in the final episode, "The One-Two" was closed down, as the show's fictional version of the New York Police Department redrew its precinct lines. This rules out the 2010s cop show Castle taking place on the same world: Their world's 12th Precinct was still in use, albeit in a different building.

One thing I've noticed: Castle (set at the fictional 12th), NYPD Blue (set at the fictional 15th), and The Mysteries of Laura (set at the fictional 2nd, and the only one of these not on ABC, rather on NBC) all used the same location for their exterior shots: The 9th Precinct, at 321 East 5th Street, on Manhattan's Lower East Side. (That's it, in the photo.)

This building opened in 2007, having been built on the site of a previous precinct house that stood from 1912 to 2002. It was the 15th until 1929, when it was renamed the 9th, and the number 15 was carved into the sidewalk pediment, inspiring the precinct number on NYPD Blue. This older building was used for exterior shots of Kojak (set at the fictional 11th Precinct), Cagney & Lacey, and NYPD Blue; the others used the new one.

Life On Mars was set at the fictional 125th, but, unlike any show using the 9th, their precinct house was on a corner, so it's not the same one.

Cagney & Lacey was set at the 14th Precinct, which does exist in real life, but is usually called "Midtown South," a name that was referenced on Barney Miller several times; but their neighborhood was called "Alphabet City" because of Avenues A, B, C and D, and that same subset of the Lower East Side was patrolled by the 15th squad of NYPD Blue, and we've got, to use a New York expression, a bit of a kerfuffle.

So none of these shows -- Kojak, Barney Miller, Cagney & Lacey, NYPD Blue, Life On Mars, Castle or The Mysteries of Laura -- takes place on the same world as any of the others. But that doesn't mean one of these cop shows can't share a world with another show.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine takes place in the fictional 99th Precinct, and had a crossover with New Girl. Might these shows take place on the same world as WBK, HOTC and Barney Miller? What about other Brooklyn-based shows? How about The Honeymooners? Or The Patty Duke Show? Or Living Single? The Cosby Show was set in Brooklyn, and A Different World was a spinoff of it. And The King of Queens and Long Island-based Everybody Loves Raymond had a crossover.

Earth-D. The Dick Van Dyke Show starred Dick Van Dyke as Rob Petrie, a writer for a TV variety show named The Alan Brady Show. That show existed on the same world as Mad About You, but about 30 years earlier. Not only was The ABS mentioned on a 1995 episode of MAY, but Carl Reiner played Brady on it. And Helen Hunt played both Jamie Buchman in the present and her mother, Theresa Stemple (then using her maiden name, Terry Cooper) in a flashback scene of The ABS.

And MAY was on the same world as Seinfeld and Friends. (And a now-forgotten sitcom titled The Single Guy.) We know this because Cosmo Kramer from Seinfeld (Michael Richards) appeared on MAY, and Ursula the waitress on MAY turned out to be the twin sister of Phoebe Buffay on Friends
(both played by Lisa Kudrow, and confusing the hell out of MAY's Jamie and Leila Kenzle as Fran Devanow when they dropped by Central Perk).

However, Mary Tyler Moore's presence as Laura Petrie on The DVDS does not necessarily put that show on the same world as The MTMS.

Earth-F: For for Friday. ABC's "TGIF" sitcoms were all linked. Perfect Strangers spun off Family Matters, whose character Steve Urkel (Jaleel White) made guest appearances on Full House and Step By Step. The actions of Salem the cat (voiced by Nick Bakay) on Sabrina the Teenage Witch affected Teen Angel, You Wish, Boy Meets World, and, retroactively, BMW's successor series Girl Meets World.

Earth-G: It's been established that the ABC soap operas General Hospital, its spinoff Port Charles, and One Live to Live take place on the same world. It is safe to presume that another ABC soap, All My Children, also does so.

Earth-H: H for Hooterville. CBS "rural" comedies The Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres and Petticoat Junction had crossovers in the 1960s.

Earth-I: I for The Incredible Hulk. The Bill Bixby & Lou Ferrigno CBS version of 1977-82 was very different from the comics' version of the Hulk. The human form was still a scientist who made a mistake with radiation, but the method and his motivation were different, and so was his name: The Robert Bruce Banner of the comics (sometimes "Bob" but usually "Bruce") became David Bruce Banner (always "David," and, to hide his identity, using last names starting with B, such as Brown and Baxter).

In 1988, '89 and '90, The Incredible Hulk had return movies that featured versions of Thor and Daredevil that weren't much like either the comics or the MCU, and bombed so badly that neither got the show that these "backdoor pilots" were trying to establish. While there were no other crossovers, it's likely that this world also includes the bad Spider-Man, Captain America and Doctor Strange TV-movies of the late 1970s.

Earth-L: L for Los Angeles. Jack Webb first produced, directed, frequently wrote, and starred as Detective Sergeant Joe Friday on, the police drama Dragnet from 1951 to 1959, using one of many lines from the show that entered the public consciousness: "This is the city: Los Angeles, California."

With his production company, Mark VII Limited, he revived it from 1967 to 1970, but he didn't stop there. He also produced the police drama Adam-12 and the medical drama Emergency! And he had characters cross over between the 3 series, all on NBC.

Emergency! was created by Harry Jack Bloom, who also created Hec Ramsey, a combination Western and police drama set in 1901 Oklahoma, starring Richard Boone, who had previously played the cultured gunman-for-hire Paladin on Have Gun -- Will Travel. On an episode of that show, which was on CBS, Paladin cites a familiarity with the career of Marshal Matt Dillon, the lead character of the defining CBS Western, Gunsmoke, suggesting that they took place on the same world.

Boone described Hec Ramsey as "Paladin, but fatter." And, clearly, older. So those 3 shows can be said to have taken place on the same world. Was it the same world as Dragnet, Adam-12 and Emergency, 70 or so years later?

What about Bonanza, on NBC, set in 1860s Virginia City, Nevada? As far as I know, there is no link between it and any other show, unless you want to count the later movies based on it, and the prequel show Ponderosa, which changed several details.

What about other L.A.-set crime-related shows of the 1970s? Columbo? The Rockford Files? CHiPs? Quincy, M.E.? I know of nothing that would rule those shows out. Starsky & Hutch took place in fictional Bay City, a name which would suggest San Francisco, but the city was said to be in Southern California, and was clearly filmed in L.A.

Worth noting: ABC's Modern Family takes place in Los Angeles, but, on their world, Game of Thrones does not exist. Instead, there is an analogue show of which Phil Dunphy (Ty Burrell) and his brother-in-law Mitchell Pritchett (Jesse Tyler Ferguson) are fans, to the point of cosplaying at a convention.

Earth-M: M for Mayberry. The Danny Thomas Show spun off The Andy Griffith Show, which spun off Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C. Given Mayberry's rural setting, it's tempting to say that it takes place on the same world as the Hooterville shows.

Earth-N: N for Navy. All the NCIS shows, their base show JAG, and the recent CBS reboots of Hawaii Five-O, Magnum, P.I. and MacGyver have been established as taking place on the same world.

The original Magnum had a crossover with Murder, She Wrote. But, as far as I know, they can't be linked with any other show, including the original Hawaii Five-O (whose last episode aired on April 5, 1980, 8 months before Magnum debuted in Hawaii on CBS) or the original MacGyver.

Earth-P: P for Public Broadcasting Service (PBS). Mr. Rogers made a guest appearance on Sesame Street, and that show's Grover made one on The Electric Company. And Spider-Man appeared on The Electric Company. But this was a very different Spidey than has appeared in comic books and any movie thus far seen, so it's not Tom Holland's version from the current Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Earth-R: R for Rhimes. All of Shonda Rhimes' "Shondaland" shows are linked, including Grey's Anatomy, Private Practice, How to Get Away With Murder, Station 19, and Scandal. Too bad, because Scandal shows things to be truly screwed-up. Seriously: Would you want to live in a world where the choices for President are Fitz Grant and Sally Langston?

Earth-S: S for Star Trek. The world we've known from 1990 or so onward doesn't match the "Star Trek Timeline." No, we haven't gotten out of our solar system by the dawn of the 2020s. But we also avoided the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s. All of the Trek shows and movies take place in that timeline.

These include the past sequence of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986), the past sequence of Star Trek: First Contact (2063), Star Trek: Enterprise (2151-61), Star Trek: Discovery (2256), Star Trek (a.k.a. "The Original Series," 2266-69), Star Trek: The Animated Series (2270), Star Trek: The Motion Picture (2273), Star Trek II, III, IV and V (2285-86), Star Trek VI and the early part of Star Trek: Generations (2293), Star Trek: The Next Generation (2364-70), Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (2369-75), Star Trek: Voyager (2371-77), the TNG movies (2371-79), and, debuting this week, Star Trek: Picard (which begins in 2399).

And it includes all trips back in time on the various shows, including (but not limited to) Earth in 1893, 1930, 1944, 1947, 1957, 1968, 1969, 1996, 2004 and 2024. (The Bell Riots are just 4 years and 7 months away now, and it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump making things bad enough for that to happen.)

The J.J. Abrams movies with the Star Trek label? As Captain Kirk (the only one, played by William Shatner) would say, "Go to the Devil!"

While The Orville shares many similarities with Star Trek, and especially appears to be an homage to The Next Generation, it clearly does not take place in the same universe.

Earth-T: This is "the Tommy Westphal Universe," inspired by the last scene of the NBC medical drama St. Elsewhere, which aired in 1988. Based on characters that appeared on that show, and characters from that show that appeared on others, and other references dropped, we know that this world includes The White Shadow, Cheers, Frasier, Homicide: Life On the Street, The X-Files and its spinoff The Lone Gunmen, Millennium, every Law & Order show, and every show in NBC's current One Chicago franchise.

UPDATE: A character from Chicago P.D., Detective Hailey Upton, played by Tracy Spiridakos, has since appeared on an episode of FBI, despite that show being on CBS, because it has the same producers. So that series, and its spinoff FBI: Most Wanted, also exist on this planet.

Earth-W: As far as I know, The West Wing (NBC, 1999-2006) has never crossed over with another show. But it did the "fictional President" thing better than any show ever has, so I'm giving it its own world.

The Peanuts specials and The Beverly Hillbillies were mentioned on The West Wing, ruling them out as taking place on the same world.

Do you know of any others? I'm not doing any Simpsons-related crossovers. You want those, write your own blog.