Friday, February 8, 2013

Baseball Hall-of-Famers By Team, 2013

Last months, I listed the living members of the Baseball Hall of Fame by team.  This time, it's all members.

A player is counted with the team if he played at least 4 seasons with them.  Teams are ranked in order of most HOFers.  If there is a tie, it will be broken by which has more non-managers.  If it's still a tie, which has more non-broadcasters.  If it's still a tie, which has more players whose contributions were mostly with that club.  If it's still a tie, which team has played fewer seasons will be ranked ahead -- since, for example, 5 HOFers is more impressive for a team that's been around since 1977 than it would be for one that's been around since 1961.  Teams that no longer exist in that form will be listed in italics and in the position where they would be ranked if they still did.

Players are listed in chronological order of when they arrived at the club, then managers, then broadcasters.

1. New York Yankees, 38: Clark Griffith (the team's first manager, elected as a pitcher and he was still a solid pitcher while he was their manager), Willie Keeler, Jack Chesbro, Frank "Home Run" Baker, Waite Hoyt, Herb Pennock, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Tony Lazzeri, Earle Combs, Bill Dickey, Red Ruffing, Lefty Gomez, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Gordon, Phil Rizzuto, Yogi Berra, Johnny Mize, Whitey Ford, Mickey Mantle, Enos Slaughter, Jim "Catfish" Hunter, Reggie Jackson, Rich "Goose" Gossage, Dave Winfield, Rickey Henderson, Wade Boggs, Miller Huggins (manager), Joe McCarthy (manager), Casey Stengel (manager), Jacob Ruppert (owner), Ed Barrow (executive), George Weiss (executive), Mel Allen (broadcaster), Red Barber (broadcaster), Joe Garagiola (broadcaster), Jerry Coleman (played for the Yankees but elected as a broadcaster, first for the Yankees, then for the Padres), Tony Kubek (played for the Yankees but elected as a broadcaster).  Bucky Harris managed the Yankees to the 1947 World Championship, but was only their manager 2 seasons, so I'm not counting him.  In this case, according to the rule I set, I have to count Rickey Henderson as a Yankee.  Joe Torre is not yet eligible to be elected as a manager; he is eligible as a player, but has never gotten in as one, and never played for the Yankees anyway.  If Lou Piniella is elected as a manager, I'll have a decision to make as to whether to count him as a Yankee HOFer, since he was good but not HOF quality for them as both player and manager.  Lee MacPhail was elected for what he did as American League President, not as Yankee general manager.  Don Mattingly and Paul O'Neill are now eligible, but let's not kid ourselves.  And then there's Roger Clemens: Even if he does get in, would you want to count him as a Yankee? George Steinbrenner, now being dead, will be eligible the next time the Veterans' Committee meets.

2. St. Louis Cardinals, 29: Charlie Comiskey (played for them before managing and owning teams elsewhere), Jake Beckley, Roger Bresnahan, Rogers Hornsby (won a World Series as a player-manager), Jesse Haines, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Jim Bottomley, Charles "Chick" Hafey, Burleigh Grimes, Frankie Frisch (elected as a player, won a World Series as a player-manager), Dizzy Dean, Joe Medwick, Johnny Mize, Enos Slaughter, Stan Musial, Red Schoendienst (elected as player but also managed them to a title), Bob Gibson, Lou Brock, Orlando Cepeda, Steve Carlton (7 seasons), Bruce Sutter, Ozzie Smith, Miller Huggins (manager, also played several years for the Cards), Billy Southworth (manager, also played for them), Whitey Herzog (manager-executive), Branch Rickey (executive), Harry Caray (broadcaster), Jack Buck (broadcaster), Joe Garagiola (broadcaster).  Jesse Burkett won a batting title with the Cards, but only played 3 seasons, so he just misses qualifying.  On the other hand, Cepeda didn't even play 3 full seasons with the Cards, but his tenure included the 1967 title and the 1968 Pennant, and he, as much as Gibson, was a symbol of that team, and he may be better remembered as a Cardinal than as a Giants, so I'm bending the rule for him.  Leo Durocher was a good player for the Cards, but was elected as a manager and never managed them, so he doesn't qualify here.  Jim Edmonds is not yet eligible.  Tony LaRussa is not yet eligible to be elected as a manager.  Mark McGwire is eligible, but he's not getting in.  Surprisingly, longtime owner Gussie Busch has never been elected.

New York Giants, 26: Roger Connor, Buck Ewing, Tim Keefe, Mickey Welch, John Montgomery Ward, Roger Bresnahan, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, George Davis, Richard "Rube" Marquard, Dave Bancroft, Ross Youngs, Frankie Frisch, George "Highpockets" Kelly, Fred Lindstrom, Travis Jackson, Bill Terry, Mel Ott, Carl Hubbell, Johnny Mize, Monte Irvin, Willie Mays, Hoyt Wilhelm, John McGraw (manager, also played for them), Leo Durocher (manager), Russ Hodges (broadcaster).  Irvin is the only living HOFer who had been elected based in part upon his performance in the Negro Leagues, mainly with the Newark Eagles.  Casey Stengel played for the Giants, but was elected as a manager, so I can't count him as a Giant HOFer.  Counting all figures who played or managed at least one game for the Giants, in New York and San Francisco, they have 66, more than any other team; however, many of those were with the club only briefly.  But even by my definitions, they are ahead of the arch-rival Dodgers.

3. Chicago Cubs, 26: Cap Anson, Mike "King" Kelly, Clark Griffith (a pitcher for them, later a manager and owner elsewhere), Joe Tinker, Johnny Evers, Frank Chance (elected as a player but should have been elected as a manager instead), Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Hazen "Kiki" Cuyler, Hack Wilson, Gabby Hartnett (also managed them to a Pennant), Rogers Hornsby, Billy Herman, Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, Ron Santo, Ferguson Jenkins, Bruce Sutter, Ryne Sandberg, Andre Dawson, Al Spalding (elected as an executive but was also a great pitcher), Frank Selee (manager), Joe McCarthy (manager, managed them to a Pennant before going to the Yankees), Leo Durocher (manager), Jack Brickhouse (broadcaster), Harry Caray (broadcaster).  Greg Maddux can be counted with them when he is elected.  Sammy Sosa is eligible, but he's not getting in.  Lee Smith is eligible, but now that he's no longer the all-time saves leader, the biggest reason for electing him is gone.  If Lou Piniella is elected as a manager, I'll have a decision to make as to whether to count him as a Cub HOFer, since he was good but not HOF quality for them.  Lou Boudreau was a beloved broadcaster for the Cubs after his playing and managing career, but never played or managed for them, and so I can't count him as a Cub HOFer.  Surprisingly, longtime owner Phillip K. Wrigley is not in.

4. Pittsburgh Pirates, 23: James "Pud" Galvin, Vic Willis, John "Honus" Wagner, Fred Clarke (elected as a player, also won Pennants as their manager), Jack Chesbro, Jake Beckley, Max Carey, Hazen "Kiki" Cuyler, Waite Hoyt (5 seasons with them), Harold "Pie" Traynor (also managed them), Paul Waner, Lloyd Waner ("Big Poison" and "Little Poison," though Lloyd was actually taller), Joseph "Arky" Vaughan, Ralph Kiner, Bill Mazeroski, Roberto Clemente, Willie Stargell, Bert Blyleven, Bill McKechnie (manager), Al Lopez (elected as a manager but was an All-Star catcher for the Pirates), Barney Dreyfuss (owner), Branch Rickey (executive), Bob Prince (broadcaster).  Blyleven was only a Pirate for 3 seasons, but I'm bending the rule because he was a key cog on their last World Championship team in 1979.  Barry Bonds is eligible, but who's kidding who?

Boston Braves, 22: Harry Wright (player and manager), George Wright, Al Spalding, Jim "Orator" O'Rourke, James "Deacon" White, Charlie "Old Hoss" Radbourne, Mike "King" Kelly, John Clarkson, Charles "Kid" Nichols, Cy Young, Hugh Duffy, Tommy McCarthy (he and Duffy were known as "the Heavenly Twins"), Billy Hamilton, Vic Willis, Jimmy Collins, Johnny Evers, Walter "Rabbit" Maranville, Dave Bancroft, Frank Selee (manager), Bill McKechnie (manager, though with no success with the Braves), Casey Stengel (ditto, also played for Braves), Billy Southworth (manager).

5. Boston Red Sox, 21: Jimmy Collins (elected as a player but also managed them to the first World Series title in 1903), Cy Young, Tris Speaker, Harry Hooper, Babe Ruth (6 seasons with Sox), Herb Pennock (7 seasons with Sox before going to Yanks), Red Ruffing (also 7 seasons with Sox before Yanks), Joe Cronin (elected as a player but also managed them to the 1946 Pennant, though unlike Collins had already retired as a player; was also longtime AL President), Rick Ferrell, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove, Bobby Doerr, Ted Williams, Carl Yastrzemski, Carlton Fisk, Jim Rice, Dennis Eckersley, Wade Boggs, Dick Williams (manager), Tom Yawkey (owner), Curt Gowdy (broadcaster).  I am bending the rule slightly for Williams, who only managed 3 seasons for the Red Sox, but one, 1967, was the most important season in the club's modern history.  I had previously forgotten to include Rice.  Pedro Martinez is not yet eligible.  Roger Clemens and Curt Schilling are.  I don't know if any of those will get in, even though all are members of the 3,000 Strikeout Club, and Clemens of the 300 Win Club.  At age 94 and having debuted in the major leagues in 1937, Doerr is now the oldest and earliest living member of the Hall of Fame.  Luis Aparicio played 3 seasons for the Red Sox, so by my rule he is not eligible to be counted with them.  Dennis Eckersley, however, played 7 seasons with them, so from now on I have to count him with them, and with their living HOFers for as long as he lives.  It was long suspected that owner Jean Yawkey would become the first woman elected to the Hall of Fame, but Effa Manley, who owned the Negro Leagues' Newark Eagles, is in, while Mrs. Yawkey is still out.

Brooklyn Dodgers, 21: Willie Keeler, Joe Kelley, Richard "Rube" Marquard, Zack Wheat, Burleigh Grimes, Charles "Dazzy" Vance, Joseph "Arky" Vaughan, Billy Herman, Joe Medwick, Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson, Duke Snider, Roy Campanella, Ned Hanlon (manager), Wilbert Robinson (manager), Leo Durocher (elected as a manager but was also a good player), Walter Alston (manager), Branch Rickey (owner), Walter O'Malley (owner), Red Barber (broadcaster), Vin Scully (broadcaster).  Casey Stengel played 6 seasons for the Dodgers, and was good, but not Hall of Fame good.  He managed 3 seasons for them; in spite of their poor performance under him, had he managed 1 more season he would still qualify as one of theirs under my rule.  Dick Williams played 5 seasons for them, but was elected as a manager and never managed the Dodgers.  Owner Charles Ebbets is not in.

6. Chicago White Sox, 19: Ed Walsh, George Davis, Eddie Collins, Ray Schalk, Red Faber, Ted Lyons, Luke Appling, Nellie Fox, Luis Aparicio, Early Wynn, Hoyt Wilhelm, Goose Gossage, Carlton Fisk, Al Lopez (manager), Charlie Comiskey (owner), Bill Veeck (owner), Jack Brickhouse (broadcaster), Bob Elson (broadcaster), Harry Caray (broadcaster).  I previously forgot to include the Goose among their living Hall-of-Famers, but he did pitch for them for 5 seasons.  Frank Thomas is not yet eligible.  Tony LaRussa is not yet eligible to be elected as a manager.  Although Clark Griffith pitched for them in their first 2 seasons and won the first American League Pennant as their manager, those 2 seasons are not enough to qualify with the White Sox.  Although Tom Seaver notched his 300th victory with the Pale Hose, he pitched for them in just 3 seasons, and can't be counted as one of their HOFers.

7. Cincinnati Reds, 17: Bid McPhee, Jake Beckley, Joe Kelley, Sam Crawford, Edd Roush, Eppa Rixey, Ernie Lombardi, Frank Robinson, Johnny Bench, Tony Perez, Joe Morgan, Tom Seaver (6 seasons with Reds), Barry Larkin, Bill McKechnie (manager), Sparky Anderson (manager), Red Barber (broadcaster), Marty Brennaman (broadcaster).  Pete Rose, of course, is ineligible.  John Franco is not yet in, but if he gets in, he pitched enough seasons with the Reds to qualify for this list.  If Lou Piniella is elected as a manager, I'll count him as a Reds HOFer.  Miller Huggins played several years for the Reds, but was elected as a Yankee manager.  Longtime owner Powel Crosley and GM Bob Howsam should be in, but they're not.  Waite Hoyt broadcast for the Reds, and was beloved in that role, but was not given the Ford Frick Award so I can't count him with the Reds.  And while 2 members of the first openly professional baseball team, the 1869-70 Cincinnati Red Stockings, are in the Baseball Hall of Fame, Harry and George Wright -- the other Wright Brothers who "invented" something important in American life -- that team was not the same team as the current Reds franchise, which began in the old American Association of 1882 and joined the NL in 1892.

8. Cleveland Indians, 16: Napoleon "Nap" Lajoie, Elmer Flick, Addie Joss, Tris Speaker (elected as player but also managed them to a title), Stan Coveleski, Joe Sewell, Earl Averill, Bob Feller, Lou Boudreau, Bob Lemon, Larry Doby, Early Wynn, Gaylord Perry, Al Lopez (manager), Bill Veeck (owner), Jimmy Dudley (broadcaster).  Satchel Paige reached the majors with the Indians, but only pitched 2 seasons for them; although I can count him with 3 different Negro League teams on this list, I can't count him with any major league team.  Indeed, that fact is the reason I've included the Negro League teams on this list.  Jim Thome will probably make it, but, barring a major shift in voters' attitudes, Manny Ramirez is probably out of luck.

9. Philadelphia Phillies, 16: Billy Hamilton, Ed Delahanty, Sam Thompson, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Eppa Rixey, Dave Bancroft, Chuck Klein, Richie Ashburn, Robin Roberts, Jim Bunning, Steve Carlton, Mike Schmidt, Harry Wright (manager), Pat Gillick (executive), By Saam (broadcaster), Harry Kalas (broadcaster).  If Curt Schilling and Jim Thome get in, they can be counted with the Phillies.  Pete Rose, of course, is ineligible.

10. Detroit Tigers, 15: Sam Crawford, Ty Cobb, Harry Heilmann, Henry "Heinie" Manush, Charlie Gehringer, Goose Goslin, Hank Greenberg (the last 3 nicknamed the "G-Men" in those early days of the FBI), Mickey Cochrane (elected as a player, also managed them to 2 Pennants), Hal Newhouser, George Kell, Al Kaline, Jim Bunning, Hughie Jennings (manager, also played for the team), Sparky Anderson (manager), Ernie Harwell (broadcaster).  Jack Morris, Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker are all eligible, but it's doubtful that any of them will ever get in.  Ivan Rodriguez is not yet eligible, and while he's never been publicly revealed to be a steroid user, he's been seriously suspected, so it's a big question mark as to whether he'll ever get in.  Longtime owners Frank Navin, Walter Briggs and John Fetzer are not yet in.  Former executive Will Harridge is, but for what he did as President of the AL, so I can't count him as a Tiger HOFer.

Philadelphia Athletics, 13: Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell, Frank "Home Run" Baker, Chief Bender, Eddie Collins, Herb Pennock, Al Simmons, Mickey Cochrane, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove, George Kell, Connie Mack (owner-manager), By Saam (broadcaster).

11. Baltimore Orioles, 12: Brooks Robinson, Hoyt Wilhelm, Robin Roberts (4 seasons with O's), Luis Aparicio (5 seasons with O's including 1966, his only title), Frank Robinson, Jim Palmer, Eddie Murray, Cal Ripken, Roberto Alomar, Earl Weaver (manager), Chuck Thompson (broadcaster), Jon Miller (broadcaster).  Although he won his only World Series with the Orioles, we don't usually associate Aparicio with them, but he did play 4 seasons with them, so by my own rule I've got to count him here.  Rafael Palmeiro is eligible, but he's not getting in.  Frank Cashen should be in as an executive.  Dick Williams played enough seasons with the O's to qualify, but was elected as a manager and never managed them.

Washington Senators, 11: Walter Johnson, Bucky Harris (elected as a manager but was also a great player), Sam Rice, Henry "Heinie" Manush, Goose Goslin, Joe Cronin (elected as a player but also managed them to a Pennant), Rick Ferrell, Early Wynn, Clark Griffith (owner), Arch McDonald (broadcaster), Bob Wolff (broadcaster). No, you can't count Ted Williams as a manager.

12. Los Angeles Dodgers, 8: Duke Snider (played 5 seasons for them in L.A.), Don Drysdale, Sandy Koufax, Don Sutton, Walter Alston (manager), Tommy Lasorda (manager), Walter O'Malley (owner), Vin Scully (broadcaster), Jamie Jarrin (broadcaster).  Steve Garvey is not getting in.  Mike Piazza probably will, and if he does, he can be counted as a Dodger.

Chicago American Giants (Negro Leagues), 8: Rube Foster (also manager and owner), Bill Foster, Cristobal Torriente, Pete Hill, George "Mule" Suttles, John Henry "Pop" Lloyd, Norman "Turkey" Stearnes, Willie Wells.

Kansas City Monarchs (Negro Leagues), 8: Jose Mendez, Satchel Paige, James "Cool Papa" Bell, Wilber "Bullet" Rogan, Norman "Turkey" Stearnes, Andy Cooper (also manager), Hilton Smith, J.L. Wilkinson (owner).  Bell played 3 seasons for them, but for the Negro Leagues, because players bounced around as much as international soccer players do, I'll bend my 4-season rule.  Buck O'Neil, first baseman and manager, is not in the Hall of Fame, a terrible oversight, especially given that his contributions to the game include what he did in the last 15 or so years of a very long life.  Jackie Robinson played his first season in professional baseball, 1945, with the Monarchs.  They were also the first pro team of Ernie Banks.

13. San Diego Padres, 7: Dave Winfield, Ozzie Smith, Rollie Fingers, Goose Gossage, Tony Gwynn, Dick Williams (manager), Jerry Coleman (broadcaster).  I had omitted the Wizard of Oz from their list of living HOFers, but he did play 4 seasons for them.  I had also omitted the Goose, who pitched 4 seasons, including their first Pennant season of 1984.  Considering how many they have in a comparatively short history, you shouldn't also count Willie McCovey, Gaylord Perry or Roberto Alomar.  Longtime owner Ray Kroc, who saved the team from being moved to Washington in 1974, is not in.

14. Oakland Athletics, 7: Jim "Catfish" Hunter, Reggie Jackson, Rollie Fingers, Rickey Henderson, Dennis Eckersley, Dick Williams, Lon Simmons (broadcaster).  Mark McGwire is eligible, but he's not getting in.  Owner Charlie Finley is eligible, but I don't think he'll ever get in, either.  Tony LaRussa is not yet eligible to be elected as a manager.  I am bending the rule slightly for Williams, who only managed 3 seasons for the A's, but got them into the postseason all 3, including 2 World Championships.

15. San Francisco Giants, 7: Willie Mays, Orlando Cepeda, Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal, Gaylord Perry, Lon Simmons (broadcaster), Jon Miller (broadcaster).  Barry Bonds is eligible, but who's kidding who? And I'm surprised that longtime owner Horace Stoneham isn't in, and that neither is his son-in-law, Chub Feeney, a Giant executive who became President of the NL.

16. New York Mets, 7: Tom Seaver, Gary Carter, Casey Stengel (manager), Yogi Berra (manager, also played a few games for them in 1965), Lindsey Nelson (broadcaster), Bob Murphy (broadcaster), Tim McCarver (broadcaster).  So that's 3 broadcasters, 2 managers, and 2 players.  Frank Cashen should be in as an executive.  Mike Piazza will probably get in eventually.  If John Franco is ever elected, you can count him.  No, you can't count Ralph Kiner, as he was elected as a player, not a broadcaster.  Nor can you count Richie Ashburn, Duke Snider, Warren Spahn, Willie Mays or Nolan Ryan -- and why would you want to count Eddie Murray, Rickey Henderson or Roberto Alomar as Mets? Or, if he gets in, Tom Glavine? Or Joe Torre?

Homestead Grays (Negro Leagues), 7: Cumberland "Cum" Posey (pitcher, then manager, then owner), Smokey Joe Williams, Josh Gibson, Buck Leonard, James "Cool Papa" Bell, Jud Wilson, Ray Brown.  Oscar Charleston and Judy Johnson each played 2 seasons for them.  Gibson was known as the Black Babe Ruth, Leonard as the Black Lou Gehrig, and together they were the Thunder Twins or the Dynamite Twins.  Williams was sometimes known as Cyclone Joe, sometimes as Smokey Joe (but never as Smokin' Joe like boxer Frazier).  As for Posey, it is possible that, like James "Pud" Galvin, his nickname was not considered sexually explicit in his time.  As an athlete, he was probably better in football, and Wendell Smith, the leading black sportswriter of the between-the-wars years and a winner of the Hall's Taylor Spink Award for media work, called him "the smartest man in Negro baseball and certainly the most successful."

Newark Eagles (Negro Leagues), 7: George "Mule" Suttles, Ray Dandridge, Leon Day, James "Biz" Mackey (also manager), Monte Irvin, Larry Doby, Effa Manley (owner, the only woman in the Baseball Hall of Fame).  Don Newcombe also played for the Eagles, and if his service there is counted, it makes him worthy of election to the Hall.

Baltimore Orioles, AA & NL 1882-1899, 6: John McGraw, Wilbert Robinson, Hughie Jennings, Willie Keeler, Joe Kelley, Ned Hanlon (manager).  While McGraw, Robinson and Jennings were all elected as managers, all could have been elected on the basis of their playing for the old Orioles.  Indeed, to this day, McGraw has the highest lifetime batting average of any 3rd baseman, .334.  Dan Brouthers played 2 seasons with them, the 1894 and '95 Pennant seasons, but can't be counted with them.

St. Louis Browns, 6: Bobby Wallace, George Sisler, Rogers Hornsby (also managed them), Rick Ferrell, Branch Rickey (executive), Bill Veeck (owner).  Rube Waddell, Goose Goslin, Heinie Manush and Satchel Paige just miss, each having played 3 seasons for the Browns.  That was also the length of time that Veeck owned the team, but since he (and his one-at-bat midget Eddie Gaedel) are now the people most identified with this team, I'm bending the rule for him.

17. Minnesota Twins, 5: Harmon Killebrew, Rod Carew, Bert Blyleven, Kirby Puckett, Herb Carneal (broadcaster).  Tom Kelly could be elected as a manager, but Tony Oliva seems unlikely to ever be elected as a player.  No, you can't count Jack Morris, Dave Winfield or Paul Molitor: Although hometown heroes, none played 4 seasons with the Twins.  Founder Calvin Griffith is not in, nor should he be.

18. Houston Astros, 5: Joe Morgan, Nolan Ryan, Gene Elston (broadcaster), Milo Hamilton (broadcaster), Harry Kalas (broadcast 6 seasons for them before joining the Phillies' broadcast team).  Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio are eligible, and both should already be in.  Roger Clemens is eligible, but even with a legal exoneration, he may never get in.

Pittsburgh Crawfords (Negro Leagues), 5: Oscar Charleston, Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson, James "Cool Papa" Bell, WIlliam "Judy" Johnson.

Milwaukee Braves, 4: Warren Spahn, Eddie Matthews, Hank Aaron, Red Schoendienst.

Buffalo Bisons (NL 1879-1885), 4: Dan Brouthers, Jim "Orator" O'Rourke, James "Deacon" White, James "Pud" Galvin.

19. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, 4: Nolan Ryan, Rod Carew, Reggie Jackson, Bert Blyleven.  I had previously omitted Blyleven from their list of living HOFers, not realizing he pitched 4 seasons for them.  Jim Edmonds is not yet eligible.  Founder-owner Gene Autry is not in, but should be.

20. Milwaukee Brewers, 4: Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Rollie Fingers, Bob Uecker (broadcaster).  No, you can't count Hank Aaron.  And I hope former owner, now Commissioner, Bud Selig is never elected, but he probably will be.

Montreal Expos, 4: Gary Carter, Andre Dawson, Dick Williams (manager), Dave Van Horne (broadcaster).  If Tim Raines and Larry Walker get in, they can be counted with the Expos.  Duke Snider could not, although he broadcast for the Expos and had played in Montreal for the Dodgers' farm team, the Montreal Royals.  So did Tommy Lasorda.

21. Texas Rangers, 3: Ferguson Jenkins, Gaylord Perry, Nolan Ryan.  I previously forgot to include Perry among their living Hall-of-Famers, but he did pitch 4 seasons for them.  Bert Blyleven pitched just 2 seasons for them.  Ivan Rodriguez is not yet eligible.  Rafael Palmeiro and Juan Gonzalez are, but who's kidding who? No, you can't count Ted Williams as a manager.  And I sure hope former owner George W. Bush is never elected; since the team won nothing while he was in control, it seems safe.

22. Atlanta Braves, 3: Hank Aaron, Phil Niekro, Milo Hamilton (broadcaster).  Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine will be counted with them when they are elected.  If they are elected, so will Bobby Cox, John Smoltz, Fred McGriff, Chipper Jones and Andruw Jones.  If Joe Torre is elected as a manager, I'll have a decision to make as to whether to include him: While he was a very good player for the Braves, he won't be elected as a player, and as Braves manager he won a single Division title.  Don Sutton broadcasts for the Braves, but can't be counted among their HOFers.  Former owners Bill Bartholomay and Ted Turner are not in, nor do I ever expect them to be elected.

23. Toronto Blue Jays, 3: Roberto Alomar, Pat Gillick (executive), Tony Kubek (broadcaster).  No, you can't count Dave Winfield, Rickey Henderson or Paul Molitor.  Or Roger Clemens.

24. Kansas City Royals, 3: George Brett, Whitey Herzog (manager), Denny Matthews (broadcaster).  Founder-owner Ewing Kauffman, surprisingly, is not in.

Lincoln Giants/Brooklyn Royal Giants (Negro Leagues), 3: Louis Santop, Smokey Joe Williams, John Henry "Pop" Lloyd.  Imagine that, a Brooklyn team called the Giants.  What the heck, from 1944 to 1948 the NFL had a Boston Yanks (defunct), and in the 1961-62 season the NBA had a Chicago team called the Packers (today's Washington Wizards).

Cuban Giants (Negro Leagues, based in New York), 3: Frank Grant, Sol White, Pete Hill.  Unlike the later Cuban Stars and New York Cubans, both also based in New York, this 1880s-90s team had no Cubans: They were called "Cuban" so their all-black roster would be better accepted.  Grant has been called the best black player of the 19th Century.

Cuban Stars (Negro Leagues, based in New York), 3: Jose Mendez, Martin Dihigo, Alex Pompez (owner).

Detroit Stars (Negro Leagues), 3: Pete Hill, Andy Cooper, Norman "Turkey" Stearnes.

Indianapolis ABCs (Negro Leagues), 3: Oscar Charleston, Ben Taylor, James "Biz" Mackey.  A separate team, the Indianapolis Clowns, was the first professional team of Hank Aaron.

Philadelphia Giants (Negro Leagues), 3: Sol White, Pete Hill, John Henry "Pop" Lloyd.

Philadelphila Hilldale (Negro Leagues), 3: Martin Dihigo, James "Biz" Mackey, William "Judy" Johnson.

St. Louis Stars (Negro Leagues), 3: George "Mule" Suttles, James "Cool Papa" Bell, Willie Wells.

Providence Grays (NL 1878-1885), 2: John Montgomery Ward, Charlie "Old Hoss" Radbourne.  Their 1879 Pennant was managed by original 1869 Cincinnati Red Stocking George Wright, but he only played with them for 2 seasons.

Cleveland Spiders (NL, 1887-1899), 2: Cy Young and Jesse Burkett.

Detroit Wolverines (NL, 1881-1888), 2: Sam Thompson, Ned Hanlon (elected as a manager but played 8 seasons for them).  Dan Brouthers and Deacon White played 3 seasons for them.

25. Miami Marlins, 2: Felo Ramirez and Dave Van Horne (both broadcasters).  If Gary Sheffield gets in, he can be counted as a Marlin, but I don't think he's getting in.  No, you can't count Andre Dawson, although he did close his career with the club and is now working in their front office.  So is Tony Perez, who briefly managed the team, but you can't count him, either.

Baltimore Black Sox (Negro Leagues), 2: Jud Wilson, Ben Taylor.  This team is not to be confused with the Elite Giants.

Washington/Baltimore Elite Giants (Negro Leagues), 2: James "Biz" Mackey (also manager), Roy Campanella. And that's pronounced EE-light, not the usual Eh-LEET.

Birmingham Black Barons (Negro Leagues), 2: George "Mule" Suttles, Satchel Paige.  Willie Mays played his first professional season, 1948, for the Black Barons.

Kansas City Stars (Negro Leagues), 2: James "Cool Papa" Bell, Willard Brown.

New York Cubans (Negro Leagues), 2: Martin Dihigo, Alex Pompez.  Although Dihigo and Pompez were also involved with the Cuban Stars, and that team was also based in New York, it was not the same team as the New York Cubans.  Like several of the Negro League owners, Pompez got some funding from the black organized crime bosses of the era, and eventually turned state's evidence to avoid prison.  He later worked as an unofficial scout for the New York/San Francisco Giants, helping to sign Hispanic stars like Orlando Cepeda, Juan Marichal, and the Alou brothers.

Philadelphia Stars (Negro Leagues), 2: James "Biz" Mackey, Jud Wilson.

26. Seattle Mariners, 1: Pat Gillick (executive).  Ken Griffey Jr. and Randy Johnson are not yet eligible.  Edgar Martinez is, but I don't think he'll ever get in.  If Lou Piniella is elected as a manager, I'll have a decision to make as to whether to count him as a Mariner HOFer, since he was good but not HOF quality for them.

27. Washington Nationals, 1: Frank Robinson, their first manager, who was already in the Hall long before MLB returned to D.C., but he did manage for them for 5 years, 1 more than my rules allow, and I do have to abide by my own rules.  But you can't count the HOFers from their previous incarnation, the Montreal Expos.

Bacharach Giants (Negro Leagues), 1: John Henry "Pop" Lloyd.  This team played its home games in Atlantic City, and were named for Harry Bacharach, who was that city's Mayor on and off from 1912 to 1935.  He's played by John Rue on Boardwalk Empire.  Lloyd stayed in Atlantic City after he retired, died there, and a youth baseball facility there is named for him.

Harrisburg Giants (Negro Leagues), 1: Oscar Charleston.

San Antonio Black Bronchos (Negro Leagues, pronounced like Broncos), 1: Joe Williams.  

28. Arizona Diamondbacks, none: If Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling get in, both can be counted with them.

29. Tampa Bay Rays, none: If Fred McGriff gets in, he can be counted with them.  Wade Boggs cannot.  Nor, if he is ever elected as a manager, can Lou Piniella.

30. Colorado Rockies, none: If Larry Walker gets in, he can be counted with them.

Kansas City Athletics, none: No player in the Hall of Fame was with the A's in their K.C. tenure for at least 4 seasons.

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